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July 23rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Uh oh, the evil Conservatives are feeling hesitant! A sign of weakness?
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Your doing an awesome job so far, I’ll be coming back for more, So keep at it
July 24th, 2008 at 1:29 am
i see some major foreshadowing
July 24th, 2008 at 5:18 am
I love the direction it is heading.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
I think Chuck may be in the closet.
Where’s the gun rack in that pickup?
-L>
July 25th, 2008 at 12:14 am
–> Loran
It’s in the back window, that X shaped thingum of course!
(Unless it’s another confederate{esque} flag…)
July 25th, 2008 at 4:54 am
This is all, seriously, something special. I’ll keep reading.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:42 am
As a former resident of many gun rack containing truck driving states, I can assure you that it may be in one of the following, all of which I have personally observed:
A.) A locked box in the front of the bed against the window.
B.) Handguns in/on/under the glove box both in racks and loosely piled.
C.) In the wheel wells
D.) Under the hood tucked behind the radiator.
E.) Under any of the seats
Thank you, and yes, it is sad that I just wrote that.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:02 am
You are totally right, James!
July 25th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Let me start by saying that I am neither a Liberal nor Conservative. I vote for what I feel is right within my belief system. The message is good, but the portrayal of “Conservatives” as rednecks or hillbillies is offensive and not every open minded (Baaah).
I was born and raised is the “South”. That same comparisons could be drawn about “Liberals” as being tree hugging, granola eating, pillow biting fairs.
Just look at Vermont where “liberal” judges let a child rapist lose with only house arrest because they think a pedophile can be “rehabilitated”. And we as citizens of America sit by and let it happen. Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative, Black, White or Red, Young or Old, we are all human beings who just want the best for ourselves and our families. Change is a sword that cuts both ways.
I felt that we went into Iraq for the wrong reason but as a former Army soldier I support our troops in their mission. No matter why they are where they are. The military only follows orders. When I hear someone they joined the military but didn’t know they could be sent into battle I want to scream out “Are you that stupid, to join the military expecting to never have to fight!?”
Double edged sword…I want my cake and eat it too.
Change can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on YOUR prospective…Peace and Love.
July 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
@NON-Sheep: Your closed mindedness is shown as you automatically resort to calling these men Red Necks because they are driving an old truck and wearing denim. People are people and the need to apply a stereotypical label to them only shows your laziness and lack of originality…
July 25th, 2008 at 10:32 am
@Anom: You obviously did not understand what you read. As I did not call anyone, anything. It is the artists caricature of the men as “Rednecks” that is close minded and offensive.
July 25th, 2008 at 10:39 am
@NON-Sheep:
No one is drawing generalities to a “redneck”. You look at those people and your mind sees the word redneck. I look at those people and see the violent gangs I lived with in my youth.
Just because it is drawn a certain way does not mean your mind has to be limited to a single, stationary, unchanging constant of what you think they are.
Are you telling me you have never see a group/organization/person that in some way is not depicted by the caricatures above?
July 25th, 2008 at 11:10 am
@James Nealon
You are making a huge assumption with your first statement. Because when I think of the violent gangs that I grew up with I think of the Bloods and Cripps and MS13 and the Gangster Disciples. None of which conjure up images of white guys in pickups.
And to answer your question…
In general…no.
I have never seen a caricature of the NAACP, Black Panthers, ACLU, Greenpeace, PETA or any other group of peoples represented by white “working class” men wearing denim driving a pickup truck sporting “Rebel” flag.
Again, being from the south I am not often offended by the term “Redneck” as I am sure people have said worse about me…(Anom).
The fact is that the type caricatures above have, for a very long time, been associated with racist white southern men. And being from, and still living in, the south it is the caricature that is assumptive and offensive.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
@NON-Sheep
You’re right, and for that I apologize.
Perhaps if I reword.
The comic can be seen as a metaphor for society. That is after all, the entire point of it, is it not. To reflect the current social/political atmosphere and encourage people to make a change?
In response to the second part of your answer, or the combined first part if you will, I suppose i would say you would have to refer to the above statement.
As to gangs, be they any color/race/location, the mindset of most of them is incredibly similar.
Out of curiosity, perhaps I am wrong, did you compare the NAACP and Rednecks?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
@James Nealon
I think the message of the comic would be just as effective if you had someone in a suit and tie driving a BMW take the sign. I feel that all groups have their own agendas/goals and the people within those groups, have their own way of trying to achieve those agendas/goals. Be it the “right” or “wrong” way.
As to the “No one is drawing generalities to a “redneck”. You look at those people and your mind sees the word redneck.” Go back and read some of the previous posts. There are a lot more narrow minded people than you may like to believe that make the very distinct assumption that the caricatures are just a bunch of rednecks. Why is it when someone has a different opion than “you” they are labeled as being narrow or closed minded when it is differing opinions make for great debate. I do not have to agree to everything you feel to be true and vice versa.
And I was in no way comparing the NAACP to Rednecks….I think rednecks know how to have way more fun.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I don’t recall ever saying anyone was narrow minded. I agree whole heartedly that difference is the spirit of debate and without it the point is moot.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
“I think the message of the comic would be just as effective if you had someone in a suit and tie driving a BMW take the sign.”
Totally. Perhaps it would.
D.J.C. (the author) will likely chime in here, but I THINK the point is that this is actually based on something that happened. Assuming I’ve understood correctly, the story this is based on didn’t play out with a BMW-driving guy in a suit & tie.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
NON-Sheep has a good point. I was actually thinking the same thing. Depicting rednecks as extremist conservative fools, is so common it’s cliche. If it wasn’t cliche, I don’t think it would even be an issue here. If you had made the antagonists look a little less redneck, (say minus the rebel flag and cowboy hat) it would so perfectly fit the stereotype.
I think the comic is well done, and sends a great message. However, I think the message is lost if you hypocritically perpetuate a stereotype.
At the least, it gives fuel to any would-be critics.
July 25th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Good Lord, why can’t people just accept that this story is being written based on ACTUAL EVENTS?!!!
If someone did a comic about slavery and the slaves were black, would some of you complain because that’s “stereotypical” because there were also white slaves throughout history?! I mean, it’s not the artist’s fault that the people who actually did this ACTUALLY LOOKED LIKE THE PEOPLE HE’S PORTRAYING IN THE COMIC.
Good grief.
July 25th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Oh, and love the comic by the way. Forgot to mention that. lol
Keep up the great work, Flobot13.
July 25th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
wow….I understand the need for “healthy debate” but is it really necessary for one jerk to CONSTANTLY start a big fight about every page that’s been done for this comic book?! I like it, I don’t think it’s making anyone look bad, there has to be a bad guy in every comic, who really cares if the bad guy “supposidly” look’s like a “redneck” I didn’t even care about that park I was focusing on the actual story! *eyeroll*
July 26th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Wow…hah ha. this argument is hilarious. I caused an argument much like this one on the page where the guys are playing cards. hah ha.
It’s amazing that i mentioned the fact that the characters are portrayed as rednecks and everyone was saying that i was wrong for stereotyping.
but you see, it’s all a matter of opinion. i stated on a previous page that i was from the south. i am, i live in Bessemer,AL. It seems that the southerners see these people as rednecks. but the non southerners try to debate that they’re not.
i personally find this hilarious.
can we all come to an agreement on one thing? The fact that these guys are indeed rednecks, however they also are not.
Does that sound reasonable?
Can we now put this argument of whether or not they’re rednecks behind us now?
The author clarified with me that this is based off a true story. so maybe the men in the story that were taking down the signs looked like rednecks so the author decided to draw them how they really looked.
Now, lets stop with the arguing and focus on what really matters.
Like, why do they find it necessary to take down the signs?
perhaps they’re uneducated in politics or maybe they’re just ignorant and don’t care to listen to the other side.
Stop arguing and focus on the point of the story. The fact that there are people like this because it is a fact that there were men like this taking down signs and thats why this story was made. so that everyone could know what happened. this story wasn’t made to spark up arguments. It’s great to speak your mind, don’t get me wrong. God gave us free will so that we could speak our minds. but lets not argue, let’s compromise.
How does that sound?
July 26th, 2008 at 12:13 am
I just realized that Malik said basically what i just said. Only, i extended it. Bue he’s right. The author couldn’t help that these men looked how they did. He’s just basing them on how they really were.
July 26th, 2008 at 12:14 am
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July 28th, 2008 at 1:28 am
I am not old enough to vote and it sucks. I have strong views on politics and the environment but it seems that since i am an “immature teenager” and am not yet old enough to be an “adult’ that no one seems care or want to listen to what i have to say.
July 28th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Only time to stop by and read and appreciate this wonderful story as is! U rock DJ…lets talk about micro merch and getting a graphic submission from you for the tent state music festival! Flo ON!
July 28th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
1) They are rednecks
2) They are racists
3) There are, in-fact, racist rednecks in this country
4) There are, in-fact, non-racist rednecks in this country
There are much bigger travesties in this world than whether or not a couple drawings are of racist rednecks.
PS - When I see the antagonists in the strip, I seem them as hate filled ice-cream cones that weren’t held enough as youngsters and are now hell-bent on stealing as a way to lash out at their alien overlord, Zong.