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	<title>Comments on: Chapter Two: Iraq 01</title>
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		<title>By: scooter</title>
		<link>http://flobots.net/tales/2008/08/chapter-two-iraq-01/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to agree with troy...we still have bases in places from all the other wars, basically saying that the essence of the word "leaving" in a lot of peoples perspectives is false.

but still, i cry from joy everytime my brothers and cousins come home...just as they did from me...

stay frosty everyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to agree with troy&#8230;we still have bases in places from all the other wars, basically saying that the essence of the word &#8220;leaving&#8221; in a lot of peoples perspectives is false.</p>
<p>but still, i cry from joy everytime my brothers and cousins come home&#8230;just as they did from me&#8230;</p>
<p>stay frosty everyone</p>
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		<title>By: CAMOCRAFT97</title>
		<link>http://flobots.net/tales/2008/08/chapter-two-iraq-01/comment-page-1/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>CAMOCRAFT97</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HOPE THE WAR ENDS SOON AND THEY BRING BACK THE TROOPS AND THEY COME HOME SAFE  AND THAT FLOBOT KEEPS GOING TILL WORLD PEACE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HOPE THE WAR ENDS SOON AND THEY BRING BACK THE TROOPS AND THEY COME HOME SAFE  AND THAT FLOBOT KEEPS GOING TILL WORLD PEACE</p>
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		<title>By: flobotic kid</title>
		<link>http://flobots.net/tales/2008/08/chapter-two-iraq-01/comment-page-1/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>flobotic kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i simply love the iraq rap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i simply love the iraq rap</p>
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		<title>By: Katanah</title>
		<link>http://flobots.net/tales/2008/08/chapter-two-iraq-01/comment-page-1/#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>Katanah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really makes me feel good to see people talking so intelligently about real issues in our country, and our world... This shows that there are people out there do care. I sense a change in the near future.

 Something is going to change about the way things are now. For the better. I know it. While there are all these bad things, the forces of positive change are building up like a shaken soda.

I'm young. I don't know much about the world, only what I hear and what I try to find out.
From what I hear, I believe there is indeed an " Other America". 

I really appreciate what the Flobots have to say, and their influence on popular culture. I think it's very important for children, adults, teenagers- the whole lot- to know what is going on out there. Neutrality is over rated. Take your stand. Talk openly about things.

Fear is our biggest enemy. 

Knowledge and enlightenment are our biggest assets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really makes me feel good to see people talking so intelligently about real issues in our country, and our world&#8230; This shows that there are people out there do care. I sense a change in the near future.</p>
<p> Something is going to change about the way things are now. For the better. I know it. While there are all these bad things, the forces of positive change are building up like a shaken soda.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m young. I don&#8217;t know much about the world, only what I hear and what I try to find out.<br />
From what I hear, I believe there is indeed an &#8221; Other America&#8221;. </p>
<p>I really appreciate what the Flobots have to say, and their influence on popular culture. I think it&#8217;s very important for children, adults, teenagers- the whole lot- to know what is going on out there. Neutrality is over rated. Take your stand. Talk openly about things.</p>
<p>Fear is our biggest enemy. </p>
<p>Knowledge and enlightenment are our biggest assets.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://flobots.net/tales/2008/08/chapter-two-iraq-01/comment-page-1/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I download this anywhere? It so sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I download this anywhere? It so sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://flobots.net/tales/2008/08/chapter-two-iraq-01/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to see you guys out with D'Mite, that would be a show I'd love to see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see you guys out with D&#8217;Mite, that would be a show I&#8217;d love to see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Loran</title>
		<link>http://flobots.net/tales/2008/08/chapter-two-iraq-01/comment-page-1/#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>Loran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have truly gone back a hundred years or so when it comes to workers rights (human rights in general) and corporations controlling the government.
It's the return of the robber barons...and it doesn't seem like it's going to get any better any time soon.
...what did we go to Iraq for in the first place...I can't remember...;-)
-L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have truly gone back a hundred years or so when it comes to workers rights (human rights in general) and corporations controlling the government.<br />
It&#8217;s the return of the robber barons&#8230;and it doesn&#8217;t seem like it&#8217;s going to get any better any time soon.<br />
&#8230;what did we go to Iraq for in the first place&#8230;I can&#8217;t remember&#8230;;-)<br />
-L.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronin08</title>
		<link>http://flobots.net/tales/2008/08/chapter-two-iraq-01/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronin08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to add to this discussion, has anyone else followed what's been going on with the contracting companies over in Iraq? (I mean no offense to any who are just doing their job on the ground, but there has been some atrocious stuff that reaches pretty high up on their corporate ladders.) Apparently we've spent a record amount of money paying these contracting companies...except some of them are doing horrible jobs. Blackwater's pretty famous by now, (and thankfully the Department of Justice is trying to indict the guards who are under suspicion for shooting civilians), this article here 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/16076312/the_great_iraq_swindle 

describes on the first page a pretty blatant abuse of our government money by a company hired to build a police college in Iraq,(I.E: It was literally a 'shit hole') and let me remind you of that 12 of our soldiers over there have now been killed by faulty wiring near showers and, in one case, a pool. 

That, above all else, is what disgusts me. That we are paying these companies with our tax dollars to go and make a fool of whatever cause our troops our fighting for, to waste it on personal luxuries, to damn well KILL our troops...it makes it all seem so much more pointless then it was before.

...And wow, reading that Rolling Stone article again, I'm seeing that someone's commenting with descriptions of their own suffering under a corporation called "SAIC." They were a systems engineer there and...wow. Wow. 

Oh god...and the video on that website.

"The system where the rich get poorly paid to hold the latter where the rich get ricocheted into the stratosphere. And in between people are rushing like Vladimir with metals to make their status clear. Get us out of here!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to add to this discussion, has anyone else followed what&#8217;s been going on with the contracting companies over in Iraq? (I mean no offense to any who are just doing their job on the ground, but there has been some atrocious stuff that reaches pretty high up on their corporate ladders.) Apparently we&#8217;ve spent a record amount of money paying these contracting companies&#8230;except some of them are doing horrible jobs. Blackwater&#8217;s pretty famous by now, (and thankfully the Department of Justice is trying to indict the guards who are under suspicion for shooting civilians), this article here </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/16076312/the_great_iraq_swindle" rel="nofollow">http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/16076312/the_great_iraq_swindle</a> </p>
<p>describes on the first page a pretty blatant abuse of our government money by a company hired to build a police college in Iraq,(I.E: It was literally a &#8217;shit hole&#8217;) and let me remind you of that 12 of our soldiers over there have now been killed by faulty wiring near showers and, in one case, a pool. </p>
<p>That, above all else, is what disgusts me. That we are paying these companies with our tax dollars to go and make a fool of whatever cause our troops our fighting for, to waste it on personal luxuries, to damn well KILL our troops&#8230;it makes it all seem so much more pointless then it was before.</p>
<p>&#8230;And wow, reading that Rolling Stone article again, I&#8217;m seeing that someone&#8217;s commenting with descriptions of their own suffering under a corporation called &#8220;SAIC.&#8221; They were a systems engineer there and&#8230;wow. Wow. </p>
<p>Oh god&#8230;and the video on that website.</p>
<p>&#8220;The system where the rich get poorly paid to hold the latter where the rich get ricocheted into the stratosphere. And in between people are rushing like Vladimir with metals to make their status clear. Get us out of here!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Loran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ike called it back in '61: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5407.htm
...or if you don't feel like reading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Beware of the Military Industrial Complex.
-L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ike called it back in &#8216;61: <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5407.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5407.htm</a><br />
&#8230;or if you don&#8217;t feel like reading: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY</a><br />
Beware of the Military Industrial Complex.<br />
-L.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonny5...I think the Afghan portion was true fear following 9/11.  I think the powers reacted to the intel in hand (whether it was bull or not) and lashed out in a show of force.  For the first time in a long time the US was scared and needed to show that we don't take that kind of thing.  Was it really effective?  No.  We see the Taliban on the rise again and Al Qaida hasn't ever really lost a step.  We have taken down small groups and certain leaders but it hasn't really done much good. 

Now, once we were in place and had somewhat of a backing it was time for payback.  Junior and most of the same guys that were in place during Gulf War I had an opportunity to push us into taking Iraq as they wanted us to do the first time.  I can't say how I know certain things because of my position in the first Gulf War but Bush Sr. was the only thing that stopped us from running straight through the middle east in 91.  Without his influence this time his cronies pushed us into this full force.  Why?  Pretty much everything you said contributed.  And it all pretty much comes back to greed.  Not the US controlling oil but these major players controlling infrastructure, military buildup and their own investments in the business of war.  Let me stress that again.  Not the US but a small group of people and organizations who have vested interest in the US maintaining a war footing.  As I said before, we will always be somewhere but this time it has much more reaching implications.  Because of this play for power we have created an environment that will either keep us there for years to come or if we pull out now or soon will bring us back into a much more major conflict in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonny5&#8230;I think the Afghan portion was true fear following 9/11.  I think the powers reacted to the intel in hand (whether it was bull or not) and lashed out in a show of force.  For the first time in a long time the US was scared and needed to show that we don&#8217;t take that kind of thing.  Was it really effective?  No.  We see the Taliban on the rise again and Al Qaida hasn&#8217;t ever really lost a step.  We have taken down small groups and certain leaders but it hasn&#8217;t really done much good. </p>
<p>Now, once we were in place and had somewhat of a backing it was time for payback.  Junior and most of the same guys that were in place during Gulf War I had an opportunity to push us into taking Iraq as they wanted us to do the first time.  I can&#8217;t say how I know certain things because of my position in the first Gulf War but Bush Sr. was the only thing that stopped us from running straight through the middle east in 91.  Without his influence this time his cronies pushed us into this full force.  Why?  Pretty much everything you said contributed.  And it all pretty much comes back to greed.  Not the US controlling oil but these major players controlling infrastructure, military buildup and their own investments in the business of war.  Let me stress that again.  Not the US but a small group of people and organizations who have vested interest in the US maintaining a war footing.  As I said before, we will always be somewhere but this time it has much more reaching implications.  Because of this play for power we have created an environment that will either keep us there for years to come or if we pull out now or soon will bring us back into a much more major conflict in the near future.</p>
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